Voice on the Aether:
Have ya ever dabbled in feedism/gaining IRL, to either fatten yourself/a partner/mutually; & what was your experience like?
ryoxxl:
I've always been turned on by the idea of being a feedee, but I also love fatties, and I feel as though I've always been a more successful feeder than feedee. I chalk this up to not hooking up with fat admirers who wanted to turn me into a real waddling fatass, whereas my habits and cooking tend to make others around me much fatter, albeit gradually! The cute, rich feeder who wants to turn you into a blubbery live-in maid is a myth... but I'm always looking to be proven wrong.
I have done a lot of erotic binge and overeating by myself, dreaming of exploding into a 600 lbs pile there and then, but it's not wonderfully sustainable as I'm sure a lot of gainers will attest to. I am naturally quite curvy and "solid", and technically obese for my height, but it's hardly FAT FAT. I've had more girlfriends than boyfriends irl, and most of them have been open to a little WG and sexy feeding play: we made some porn, did some cow play and it's been fun! Nevertheless, none were die-hard feedists looking to make being fat a permanent lifestyle choice. None of us were rich enough to order food every day either haha. You really gotta have the kink for that amount of over eating to be sexy, and to help slide another 1000 or so calories down each others' throats.
Online feeders are easy to come by, at least for moral support, but finding somebody in your locale who is the same age and is kink and personality compatible is always tricky, especially before feedism social networks were ever a thing and the kink was much more underground. I also travelled quite a lot when I was overtly single and looking, so it was hard to pin me down and I wasn't anywhere near as accessible online. I drew a little, but was a lurker for the most part.
Nowadays, my ideal date would be a fast food drive through mutual stuffing (and playful fat exploration) before going home and repeating the same exercise in front of the TV before passing out in a horny food coma. Repeat regularly until one of you is 400 lbs and then celebrate with a whole costco tray cake. Lazy, horny and fun.
Voice on the Aether:
Does Anthro Whale, Shark, Seal or even Squid/Octopus WG TF appeal to you at all? Like imagine skinny Gals sunbathing on the surf-strewn sands; before ballooning into big, blubbery, bloated, bikini-clad, beached whales; or titanically tubby, tentacular, lardy, Lovecraftian masses of flabby, fleshy fat!!! π³ππ¦ (Personally, I blame all the nuclear waste, toxic sludge, biohazardous compounds and mutogenic chemicals they keep dumping in the ocean!) π§ͺβ£οΈπβοΈβοΈ
ryoxxl:
Whale is something I've had a go at recently, and I liked it! Shark reminds me of an old show that was around I was a kid, I think it was called Street Sharks? It absolutely had that 90s mutation from toxic waste thing going on. Kinda fun to put somebody through that who was interested in becoming a big, fat, blorping land shark.
Squid or octopus is an interesting one! I have never been too into tentacles and the like, so it's not been something I've attempted!
Voice on the Aether:
With your taste in lovably dumpy Scottish BBWs & uber-thicc milfs, how about WG art of Lady Kluck from Disney's Robin Hood?! π₯°ππ I feel she'd looks Absolutely AMAZING in your style! π And with all the medieval, aristocratic, courtly context to her character, you could have SOOO Much Fun playing around with lavish, luxurious & deliciously decadent feasting, feeding & fabulously fattening excess!!! ππΈπ€€ (Och, Marian dear! Ye dinnae haf knoo how te spoil, pamper & indulge a lady's 'Wilder Appetites', hen... ππ°π·π§π)
ryoxxl:
Excellent idea! What with her charging the rhino brutes American football style and just being an overall badass at contact sports AND losing shuttlecocks down her breasts. I love chicken girls, and bird TF in general. She and Marian steadily getting heavier and fatter cooped up in the castle grounds is a vibe. Scots girls for the win π΄σ §σ ’σ ³σ £σ ΄σ Ώπ΄σ §σ ’σ ³σ £σ ΄σ Ώ!
Voice on the Aether:
Any plans to bring back some of the old stuff like Gurm/Gjoda related scenarios? Those were my first introduction to your art and I still really like 'em :3
ryoxxl:
I am always trying to pull together the wider ryoxxl "lore" where the big purple dragoness xenos ethereals (Gjodo) are playing cosmic dolls house with humanity who have *just* over stretched their colonisation of the galaxy and are beginning to fray at the seams. These seams are where the transhuman corruptions set in and filter all the way back to terra, with lots of little storylines and settings where the outcomes tend to be very fattening and transformative! Very 40K inspired, but with less grunting man meat and more fake eyelashes and ill-fitting shapewear.
The recent Rhinoko lore is very much what I envisaged for the Gurm-like WGTFs-- a sort of dark, deeply corruptive and bloated nurgle-like force that blesses its devotees with a super trippy and endlessly enjoyable high... whilst turning them into flabby brutes with a warped but highly invigorated new sense of self. The Rhinoko stuff feels like it's an off-shoot of that kind of corruption with the whole pretty girl into big heavy brute vibe. In contrast, getting gifted with an enormously fat dragon rear, tail and a complimentary glitzy new wardrobe feels much more the big Gjodo space girl end member WGTF. Choose your kinky poison...!
I love both sorts of WGTF and stories lend *so* much more to the enjoyment of a weird and wonderful illustration that falls out my brain. If people keep supporting me when I go off on one with these short stories or brand new TF sequences I'll be fleshing out this a lot more! Likewise if people want more coherence, actual plots that also something I'd be interested in doing for the Gjodo stuff. It's all very nascent still.
Voice on the Aether:
Do ya like weight-gain scenarios where gainers undergo a change of personality mental-state or attitude from growing fatter? And in what direction do ya most enjoy seeing their corresponding 'character-growth' going developing or taking them as individuals???
ryoxxl:
I like a character to undergo a kind of intoxication with the process of their weight gain, where their inhibitions evaporate and some of their more naughty traits get brought to the surface. Corruption is fun! Greedier, less risk averse, hornier... mixed in with perhaps a nice reduction in overall intelligence (or at least a reduced willingness to use their intelligence), becoming more docile, malleable and hypnotised by their own excess. No need to think... just eat... just grow... get SOFTER.
The strongest example of this kind of corruptive WG mental shift is the rhinoko-type TF, where I get to play with a complete personality shift from a normal, perhaps headstrong but feminine personality into a complete slovenly, brutish and brazenly idiotic or meathead-like rhino goon... where the TF subject is completely enthralled by the process of their physical and mental degradation that they start to revel in their own descent, and this forbidden, sexual pleasure from extreme transformation becomes too difficult to resist... and the idea of permanent change is a thrill too exciting not to chase.
I also like the more wholesome WG-derived mental shift where perhaps somebody was living a stressful existence before they are "allowed" to finally let go, and a kind foxy feeder pampers them into a happier, sexier and more at peace plumper! The fluffy ending!
Voice on the Aether:
What feedist/weight gain related themes, tropes & motifs do you feel are the most underrated, underused & underrepresented?
ryoxxl:
This is a tricky one, as I think I've been so engrossed in WG and feedism content for so long that I feel like I've seen it all!
However, I personally love the "normalcy bias" kind of unintentional weight gain. Like, you're noticing that your clothes are fitting tighter and the number on the scale is creeping up, but you're assuming that you'll "bounce back" as you always have. No dieting, and surrounded by fatter friends and co-workers means you're perception of what constitutes as fat is so warped that you plumpen up a good 100 lbs and continue to chalk it up to just winter weight. THEN you discover feedism and the wheels rapidly come off as soon as soon as your brain starts to conflate the sensation of eating with sexual arousal.
So, two themes really there, but I love a good psychological explanation in a story explaining how a previously in shape and normal person eventually becomes a waddling oinker. It needs to be gradual and realistic enough that it could (almost) happen!
Voice on the Aether:
Bit of a weird question, but what is your opinion on stuff like belching, farting and messy eating? Is there a point where it gets too much, for you, or do you not like it at all?
ryoxxl:
I don't mind belching! Messy eating is hot too.
I'm a bit of a clean freak irl so expect me to be wiping your mouth after a funnel feed, and you can fart to your heart's content, just don't expect me to be turned on.
Don't hold it in tho!
Voice on the Aether:
I hope future fat fur fans look back on our era of fat furry art as just 'Furry art' simply due to ever-increasing obesity!
ryoxxl:
I do think that furries are much more chill with fats, and a hugely obese furry could walk into a room and nobody would bat an eye (unless they're like super hot and have a rack that could sink a battleship, because who could resist THAT). Until people get over their apparent "revulsion" at seeing fat bodies online we will always be a category... rather than just a body type. Ideally FA or other sites should simply allow people to filter on body type, rather than classify as a sub-fetish anything north of a muffin top. I think things are changing. I have no stats, but it feels like fat furry is a growing (heh) community. It's clear that fat furry art is awakening a sexual attraction for fatter people, in the same way it can open up peoples' sexuality.
I hope fat furry art can at least encourage people to see the attraction in a wider range of body types, helping de-normalise fat phobia. Obviously fetishising fat isn't exactly helping in that regard, but I do hope that fat furs are blended into the mainstream because we're all sexy, whether we're fat, thin and everything in between!
Voice on the Aether:
Irresistible insatiable all-consuming gluttony erasing overriding & subsuming all other emotion impulses & iota of identity is honestly one of my all-time favourite weight-gain tropes! Just growing gradually degraded by your greed until you literally only exist to eat & eat & eat! Reduced to a pure piggish puppet possessed by your overwhelming overpowering uncompromising cravings! And you basically become nothing but an embodiment of your own utterly intoxicating appetites!... I'd honestly LOVE to hear your personal take on the topic, dude!
ryoxxl:
I think this is genuinely what'd happen if you let a lot of us totally unleash our base sexual and hedonistic NEED to become a monument to consumption, surrendering all control over our physical representation on Earth to the extremes of a six figure daily calorific intake.
So many XWG stories culminate with the hoggish, mindless gorging on a feeding funnel until the subject has metamorphosed into a heaving, wobbling blob of blubber. It's part of the fantasy: what would happen if you simply devolved into a vehicle for total pleasure, letting all of your complex human nuances evaporate, simplifying your existence to a single need, and becoming no more mobile or cognisant than a sea squirt that breathes in nutrients from sea water... except **you're** a hole to fill with calories, sweet sweet gooey energy all wrapped up in sugar, to grow to lose more of yourself to your own psychic hijacking. You've let your mind become hopelessly addicted and each passing second makes it 10 times harder to go back.
Feeling your body expand rapidly across the floor, you know you've short circuited, you're pure id now, you tried to keep it down for years, but finally given the opportunity to turn 8 ton pig, you jumped... you grew and you let greed turn you into an ocean of greasy fat... and you LOVE every moment.
Voice on the Aether:
So I was randomly reminded of "Urban Foxes" today & I now have a burning desire to see a super slobby Suzie gorging herself on garbage from dumpsters & food scraps from trash cans at night! Possibly while being caught in the act of shamefully embracing her insatiably opportunistic voraciously vulpine nocturnal nature! Utterly bloated & blubbery beyond belief! And exclaiming: "I-it's not what it looks like!!!" in pure panicked shock! (Please forgive my dumb art-prompt if it's not to your tastes tho Ryoxxl!)
ryoxxl:
This just sounds like me after a few too many negronis on a night out